November 24, 2015
Written by Maximus Peperkamp,
M.S. Verbal Engineer
Dear Reader,
During the final weeks of this semester the atmosphere in my classes
has changed and students are much more verbally involved. In each of my four classes
they have submitted their term papers. I look forward to reading them. The energy
is charged now that they have spoken, albeit in writing. I notice they are more
involved in speaking too. It might be a good idea to have them write a short mandatory
paper earlier in the next semester. Their writing increases their speaking
behavior. This could make them more verbally stimulated from the beginning.
I read “Separate but interlocking accounts of the behavior of
both speaker and listener: when the listener speaks is there more to listening
then just listening?” by C.A. Thomas (2004). Separate accounts of the speaker
and the listener give rise to Noxious Verbal Behavior (NVB), while interlocking
accounts give rise to Sound Verbal Behavior (SVB). The author, like Skinner,
doesn’t know about the SVB/NVB distinction (my extension of radical
behaviorism) and still believes there is such a thing as “Separate but
interlocking accounts of the behavior of both speaker and listener.” However, during
speech, SVB and NVB don’t co-occur. Only SVB provides an interlocking account.
A separate account, on the other hand, only occurs in writing, which cannot
give us an interlocking account. It is important to note that Skinner wrote “Our interest in the listener is not;
however, merely an interest in what happens to the verbal stimuli created by
the speaker. In a complete account of a verbal episode we need to show that the
behavior of the listener does in fact provide the conditions we have assumed in
explaining the behavior of the speaker. We need separate but interlocking
accounts of the behaviors of both speaker and listener if our explanation of
verbal behavior is to be complete. In explaining the behavior of the speaker we
assume a listener who will reinforce his behavior in certain ways. In
accounting for the behavior of the listener we assume a speaker whose behavior
bears a certain relation to environmental conditions. The interchanges between
them must explain all the conditions thus assumed. The account of the whole episode
is then complete. (Skinner, p.34, 1957)" Skinner
wanted a complete explanation of verbal behavior, but he didn’t discover the
SVB/NVB distinction.
“The
complete explanation of verbal behavior” can only be given when we listen to
ourselves while we speak, that is, when we engage in SVB. As long as we, as
Skinner and Thomas, remain overly involved in and concerned with writing and
reading, we are merely chasing a shadow. The question which is raised by Thomas
“When
the listener speaks is there more to listening then just listening?” can only
be answered if the listener speaks.
My answer to this question is YES, as a listener who doesn’t speak doesn’t
listen as well as a listener who speaks. Why? Such a speechless listener cannot
hear him or herself. When we can’t hear ourselves we can’t hear others. We can
only hear ourselves when we speak. In other words, we must speak to hear
ourselves.
Self-listening-while-speaking enhances
other-listening-while-speaking. That is SVB in which there is turn-taking
between the speaker and the listener. However, the opposite is also true:
other-listening-while-not-speaking makes it impossible to self-listen, as one
is not speaking. That is NVB in which there is no turn-taking between the
speaker and the listener. There is more to this question “When the
listener speaks is there more to listening then just listening?” When the
listener speaks, there is more to speaking than just speaking!! The difference
between speaking at or speaking with the listener depends on whether the
speaker is listening to him or herself while he or she speaks.
“In
explaining the behavior of the speaker we assume a listener who will reinforce
his behavior in certain ways.” An account of the speaker without the
listener doesn’t make any sense. The speaker and the listener must be
considered together. However, this doesn’t and can’t occur in NVB, it only
happens in SVB. The listener-who-is-the-same-as-the-speaker “will reinforce”
the speaker’s “behavior in certain ways”; he or she automatically reinforces
him or herself. Likewise, the listener-other-than-the-speaker reinforces the
speaker’s behavior, as he or she really listens and experiences total agreement
with the speaker.
“In accounting for the
behavior of the listener we assume a speaker whose behavior bears a certain
relation to environmental conditions.” If the speaker affects the listener
aversively, as is the case in NVB, the listener will behave differently as when
the speaker affects the listener positively, as in SVB. Unless we acknowledge
the difference in the interchanges between the speaker and the listener in SVB
and NVB, we will never have a complete account of the whole episode. Although
Skinner never indicated the SVB/NVB distinction, his account of our verbal
behavior seems to be based more on SVB than on NVB. He says “The interchanges between them must explain
all the conditions thus assumed. The account of the whole episode is then
complete.”
Thomas writes “In his treatment of verbal behavior [Skinner]
asserts that one cannot properly elucidate the functions for the responding of
speaker without taking into account the responding of the listener and the
ecological contingencies in which the behavior is emitted.” Such a statement
refers to SVB. To really talk about and agree on these matters there would have
to be a situation free of aversive stimulation that would allow us to actually
engage in that conversation. “Skinner (1957) laid out a functional model of speaker
behavior” as he, unlike others, thought out loud and was automatically reinforced
for this.
Thomas asks “If the listener vocalizes does that make the
listener the speaker?” My answer is again YES, but only in SVB. In SVB, the
speaker and the listener are one. In other words, in SVB, the speaker and the
listener as well as the-listener-who-is-the-speaker agree, but in NVB there is
no such agreement between the speaker and the listener. In NVB “the listener
vocalizes”, but it will make him or her a NVB speaker, who doesn’t listen to
him or herself, who then separates the speaker from the listener. My answer to
the question “Can a speaker actually be responding as a listener even though
the response may be a vocalization?” is again YES, but this will only occur in
SVB. In SVB the speaker responds as his or her own listener, but in NVB this
doesn’t and can’t occur. In NVB we are focusing on and listening to others or
making others listen to us, but in either case we are not listening to
ourselves.
Thomas concludes “sometimes the listener speaks, but does
not cease responding as the listener making developing approaches to training
language acquisition a clearly easier “concept” for both practitioners who
design curriculum and those who strive to use it in practice.” The “training of
language acquisition” will be greatly enhanced if practitioners, rather than
focusing on designing new curriculum, distinguish between SVB or NVB. As Thomas’
conclusion demonstrates, the focus is on written, not on spoken language. As
long as we have not engaged for an extended period of time in SVB, we cannot be
“fluent members of the verbal community.” By teaching others, we find out
things about ourselves: if we don’t listen to ourselves while we speak, others
don’t listen. Emancipation of the listener requires that the listener to
becomes a speaker. Behaviorists have continued to broadly “disregard the
listener’s behavior as receptive” as long as they didn’t properly analyze the
speaker-as-own-listener. This can’t be done while writing and reading, it must
be done while simultaneously speaking and listening, that is, while engaging in
SVB. “Refinement in the study of verbal operants” demands that we have SVB. “A
better understanding of the listener operants” creates better speakers.